{"id":53783,"date":"2025-02-16T09:15:06","date_gmt":"2025-02-16T01:15:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fwq.ai\/blog\/53783\/"},"modified":"2025-02-16T09:15:06","modified_gmt":"2025-02-16T01:15:06","slug":"deepseek-grpo-vs-openai-rlhf","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fwq.ai\/blog\/53783\/","title":{"rendered":"DeepSeek GRPO vs. OpenAI RLHF"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>DeepSeek-R1 \u8bba\u6587\u8ba9\u6574\u4e2a AI \u793e\u533a\u90fd\u4e3a\u4e4b\u632f\u594b\u3002\u636e\u8bf4\u8fd9\u662f\u4e00\u7bc7\u9769\u547d\u6027\u7684\u8bba\u6587\uff0c\u53ef\u80fd\u4f1a\u5728\u201c\u6ce8\u610f\u529b\u5c31\u662f\u4f60\u6240\u9700\u8981\u7684\u4e00\u5207\u201d\u7684\u4f20\u7edf\u4e2d\u627e\u5230\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u4f4d\u7f6e\u3002<\/p>\n<h2>1\u3001\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48 DeepSeek-R1 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RL\uff09\uff1a\u91cd\u70b9\u662f\u9488\u5bf9\u7279\u5b9a\u4efb\u52a1\u7684\u6307\u6807\u8fdb\u884c\u4f18\u5316\u3002\u8fd9\u610f\u5473\u7740\u6a21\u578b\u7ecf\u8fc7\u8bad\u7ec3\u53ef\u4ee5\u5728\u7279\u5b9a\u4efb\u52a1\u4e0a\u8868\u73b0\u826f\u597d\uff0c\u4ece\u800c\u6700\u5927\u9650\u5ea6\u5730\u63d0\u9ad8\u8fd9\u4e9b\u7279\u5b9a\u9886\u57df\u7684\u6027\u80fd\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote><p>\n  \u8303\u56f4\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li>OpenAI (RLHF)\uff1a\u8be5\u65b9\u6cd5\u5e7f\u6cdb\u4e14\u901a\u7528\uff0c\u65e8\u5728\u5728\u5e7f\u6cdb\u7684\u5e94\u7528\u548c\u573a\u666f\u4e2d\u8fdb\u884c\u534f\u8c03\u3002<\/li>\n<li>DeepSeek\uff08\u66f4\u7b80\u5355\u7684 RL\uff09\uff1a\u8303\u56f4\u72ed\u7a84\u4e14\u9488\u5bf9\u7279\u5b9a\u4efb\u52a1\uff0c\u9488\u5bf9\u7279\u5b9a\u4efb\u52a1\u800c\u4e0d\u662f\u4e00\u822c\u7528\u9014\u4f18\u5316\u6a21\u578b\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote><p>\n  \u590d\u6742\u6027\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li>OpenAI 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